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Question on wiccan Rede...
Posted by JadeEve on 2010-05-18 17:50:54 |
| Does this mean the same thing pertaining to your self...I know we are not to harm others...So if you do things that are unheathy to yourself is that going to hurt you 3 times over? Another quetion is I know the is the Wiccan Rede...But do we go by our own rules or is there a book that everyone comes to?Dont mean to sound completely stupid but im new at this and have alot of questions. |
| Posted by kat0510 on 2010-05-18 19:53:25 |
| no there isnt a book like the bible for wiccans. theres just the rede and there are principles that most wiccans follow. and the reed says do what u wish as long as it doesnt hurt others. so id assume that the 3 fold law doesnt apply if u hurt urself. i wouldnt suggest it but i myself no that some times it cant be helped exspecialy w ppl who have depression issues. i no im not the best to be talking about wiccan stuff since ive only been studying it for two years but oh wel :P |
| Posted by Raito9 on 2010-05-20 21:18:42 |
| I guess it's how you take it. To me, the wiccan rede means to not harm anything that lives, including yourself. Personally, I think only angsty idiots go frazed enough to hurt themselves. Like cutters, they just seek attention. I had friends like this at school. Cutting yourself actually became like a fad or something. All these depressed little emo kids, it was ridiculous! The only excuse a person has to cut themselves is stupidity. Don't hurt yourself, and you won't have to worry about the rede. |
| Posted by kat0510 on 2010-05-21 17:00:47 |
| ummmm i cut myself and it wasnt for attention so dont go saying that everyone that cuts do it for attention. i dont go around showing ppl my cuts when i did do tht. i hid them so no one would c bc i didnt want attention i hate attention. i did it bc i needed an outlet and blood calms me down. its not for a fad or whatev. and not only that but just bc ppl cut that doesnt make them lil emo kids. i have clincal depression and i cant control that. sorry if this sounds snippy but i hate it when ppl sterotype all cutters as attention seekers. |
| Posted by CasperHawke on 2010-05-21 18:16:52 |
| My Circle has certain guidelines that we follow. These might be of use to you on your path. They are: 1. Know thyself. 2. Show fealty, loyalty, honor, respect and gratitude to those that teach you and those that lead you. 3. Treat all Circle members as the true brothers and sisters that they are. 4. Give truth to your fellow Circle members at all times and trust them not to judge you. 5. Each member’s past is their own. Each member’s path begins when they join the Circle. Respect this. 6. The Circle supports it’s members and each member, in turn, supports their Circle. In this way, as in all things, we look out for each other for the benefit of each other and the benefit of all. 7. Show honor to the Gods and/or Goddesses that you follow. We are a path to the greatness that lies within each of us, we are not an entity that is to be worshiped. 8. Show respect to all forms of life. They are a part of this planet and deserve a chance at life as much as you do 9. Some rules must never be broken as to do so would bring dishonor to that which we stand for. These rules are: ◦ Never abandon a fellow Circle member; ◦ Never allow the word of a fellow Circle member to be broken through action or lack of action; ◦ Never lead a fellow Circle member down false paths; ◦ Never take a life needlessly. Equally, if the need arises, do not judge yourself harshly for it and trust us not to judge you; ◦ Keep the teachings of the Circle sacred, as such knowledge in the hands of those unworthy of it would cause it to be misused; ◦ Above all else is the love that we have for each other, for our traditions, for the knowledge given to us by the Circle. This is to be protected and well-guarded, in this life and in those that follow. |
| Posted by Raito9 on 2010-05-21 20:50:36 |
| What ever your reason is, it's stupid and unhealthy. I've heard your excuse before. Walk, paint, read, scream, just why hurt yourself? More pain calms you down? Do you realize how that sounds? Have you read the statistics for people who have 'depression'? So many people do it's become a common everyday thing. Loading yourself up with pills, or hurting yourself seems to be what society thinks is a cure. Why not just say, 'you know what? Life happens. People die, bad things occur, this is life. I can deal with this. I'm strong enough.' I mean, your what, 16? Teenage depression is so common. It's just a phase. People get it, I've had it, my whole family has, my friends and their families. Saying 'i'm depressed, i need a bloody outlet' is justification for slicing your skin open. I may seem mean and agitated about this subject, but I've had history with it and it irks me just how many kids cut themselves. You wouldn't believe how many friends I had that did. Almost all of them! So, yeah, to me, it seems like a teenage angsty fad. |
| Posted by Raito9 on 2010-05-21 20:52:23 |
| oops. Got typing quick. I meant to say slicing your self up ISNT justified because your feel 'sad'. |
| Posted by katrina on 2010-05-24 03:07:51 |
| i don't understand the whole "bloody outlet" but i do know that for some kids, its a way of releasing pent-up anxiety and anger. have you ever felt so full of rage or sadness that you felt you were going to explode if you didnt do something about it? while most of us would simply punch a pillow or scream into it, cutters will cut themselves in order to release the pressure dweeling inside of them. do i think its right or even understandable? no. in school, all children, including myself, were taught in workshops how to channel negative energy within us into positive energy without hurting ourselves or others. so, is cutting an emo thing that was invented by whinny teens to make themselves feel even more ostricized? maybe but, if that's the case, than so was bulimia and anorexia nervosa. and look at what horrible, debilitating diseases those turned out to be. so try not to take it lightly, no matter how strongly you feel on the subject. remember, this is a wiccan website, meaning that we respect all people and accept them for who and what they are as well as try to help them anyway we can. |
| Posted by Raito9 on 2010-05-24 09:54:55 |
| I get that Katrina, and thats a great way of saying it, but I was raised that people who dont repect themselves dont deserve respect. That's just someting thats stuck with me. Why waste my time trying to be nice and respectful to someone who doesnt do it themselves? Is slicing yourself open and possibly playing with your own life respecting yourself? No, it isn't. |
| Posted by FrostVamp on 2010-05-27 10:34:53 |
| Alright here they are 1 cutting is NOT OKAY, no matter the reason 2 kat whoever you are, you ARE doing it for attention. the fact that you are bragging about it to total strangers just perpetuates what Raito here is saying 3 A TON OF PEOPLE DO IT FOR ATTENTION! I understand the part of the outlet, but cutting is a serious problem, HOWEVER! its only a serious problem to those who are SERIOUSLY HURTING! 4 I'm not ripping on anyone but kat, im just saying it IS a problem with some... anybody who loves to read, just get alex sanchez's latest book "Bait" just finished it, it ROCKED! |
| Posted by JadeEve on 2010-06-05 02:21:01 |
| Lol...Not quiet meaning to start such conversation...I guess what i ment by harming yourself was pertaining to my unforgiveness of myself for things that sometimes are not even my fault nessasarily...I'm always apologizing for everything...I'm even sorry for being sorry! I don't really know where all the guilt rooted from...But im very upset and disapointed in myself for mistakes ive made and things i can no longer change if that makes sence...But thank you for the new perspective!!! |
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