Sabbat expressions...
Posted by tangible on 2011-03-18 15:53:25
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Hey all, I am working on some new writing and was thinking about the nature of Sabbat celebrations ("why we do what we do"), and after chatting with some friends of mine it became surprisingly clear that some people have (in some cases) really no idea whatsoever as to why we observe the Sabbats "as we do" - meaning theme, symbolism, and form.
Sooooo... I thought of you guys and gals... So what say you all? How do you understand the role of Sabbat celebrations? What do you believe their purpose and role in The Craft is? |
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| Posted by hazelsnake on 2011-03-18 16:33:42 |
| In Strega it is said that if we do not celebrate the days of nature we will lose nature. |
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| Posted by tangible on 2011-03-19 04:25:13 |
| Like... seasons would stop? Hmmmmm.... that actually makes me think of another way to describe it... could you explain a little more about what you mean? |
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| Posted by hazelsnake on 2011-03-19 11:04:17 |
| If no one cared about nature, nature would be lost to them. Seasons stop, well yes that too. Because of the way the world has wrapped it self up in a more materialistic manner we have global warming which is causing these extreme swings in the weather that supports nature so we are in fact slowly losing nature itself. This is one of the reasons that modern Wicca pushes for an earth friendly stance where in the begining of Wicca this was not an issue. I find it very differcult explaining this to the old practioners who don't see nature as the main focus of thier religion. |
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| Posted by tangible on 2011-03-22 10:50:22 |
"I find it very differcult explaining this to the old practioners who don't see nature as the main focus of thier religion."
I can understand why. For some us, Wicca is/was not concerned with the preservation of nature, at least not in this sense - and I myself have had the mirror issue: Trying to explain to short rooted folk that Wicca was not always *concerned* with ecological concerns... It is probably a hard thing for some traditionalists to conceive of a reality that requires our participation to maintain nature... these are the domains of the Divine, and we are just as much a part of nature as any other thing... a part and not progenitors or maintainers... participants ;o)
I suppose I fall into the "old practitioners" category; Nature is not a *main focus*; Some of us perceive the periodic manifestation of the Divine [[[through]]] nature, and thus as being the *body*/*bodies* of the Divine; Engendered expressions of the Creative Force. I can appreciate the sentiment of some who come to The Craft with a more eco-centric impression, but until now, I just figured that they eventually grow into a "different" understanding through experience and reflection on the mysteries...
... Soooo, I find it interesting that other traditions might put so much importance/responsibility on the adherents in a role of supporters and preservers of nature. I think I get what you are saying - and it makes me very curious indeed... I think this is something you and I should persist in discussing... I have a feeling that we are two sides to the same coin here and what we have to say could be very useful/meaningful to others.
So, are we saying this idea is more like that WesOc idea that (paraphrasing) "Nature unaided fails"? |
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